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Replying To FullOfPorter: "Used to be a ground hurling competition in Roscommon for primary schools in the 90s, might be wrong but think it was called the Sean Lohan cup. There was hurling around Boyle at one stage as well. Not sure why we should only restrict hurling to a few counties/regions because of a snap shot in time. Ros rounders team did well this year, hand ball alive and kicking in a fair few parts of Ros as well" Handball is huge around here too Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 20656 - 27/08/2026 17:00:30 2691575 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Agree no club should be fined for not fielding underage hurling teams. But equally clubs that only field teams in one code, hurling or football , should only get half the money from Croke Park/Provincial Council that clubs that field teams in both codes do." Now that is a great suggestion. Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4664 - 27/08/2026 18:16:53 2691584 Link
Replying To FullOfPorter: "Used to be a ground hurling competition in Roscommon for primary schools in the 90s, might be wrong but think it was called the Sean Lohan cup. There was hurling around Boyle at one stage as well. Not sure why we should only restrict hurling to a few counties/regions because of a snap shot in time. Ros rounders team did well this year, hand ball alive and kicking in a fair few parts of Ros as well" Going back years ago Roscommon were a half descent team , if I'm not mistaken I think there are 7 senior teams but they put them in 2 groups of 4 and 3 so u coukd get to semi by winning one match in a group of 3 would it not make sense put them all in one group play 6 matches it surely would help improve the game u would imagine,, Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 1173 - 27/08/2026 19:58:02 2691589 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: "Devil's advocate here, and just in relation to your last paragraph - Leave aside all considerations of culture and tradition and so forth, and ask yourself what's wrong with somebody holding a key position in the GAA making the suggestion that all GAA clubs should provide both of the main sports of the GAA? Matter of fact, can any club who deliberately decides not to provide one of the two sports, in an area where that sport isn't otherwise provided by some other club anyway, truly consider itself a GAA club in the first place? Viking points out about that almost every club in Kilkenny provides football, and for those that don't, any player who wants to play football doesn't have to travel too far to have the opportunity to do it. And often pointed out myself that there's far more football played in Kilkenny than there is hurling in about 18 other counties." So we are t a real GAA club if we don't play hurling? It's the compulsory part I disagree with. If big clubs can accommodate Hurling and promote it then great. My own club has one pitch which is shared between the ladies club and men's club. There is training and/or games on it nearly every single evening of the week during summer. Where on earth would we be able to accommodate Hurling? The knowledge is not there to coach it. We struggle to field teams as it is so population is an issue. Also of hurling is made compulsory what's the punishment for not playing/promoting it? A comment suggesting a football club or county is not a real GAA club based on this is areogance and I don't agree with it. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 12257 - 27/08/2026 21:00:46 2691602 Link
Replying To yew_tree: "So we are t a real GAA club if we don't play hurling? It's the compulsory part I disagree with. If big clubs can accommodate Hurling and promote it then great. My own club has one pitch which is shared between the ladies club and men's club. There is training and/or games on it nearly every single evening of the week during summer. Where on earth would we be able to accommodate Hurling? The knowledge is not there to coach it. We struggle to field teams as it is so population is an issue. Also of hurling is made compulsory what's the punishment for not playing/promoting it? A comment suggesting a football club or county is not a real GAA club based on this is areogance and I don't agree with it." We probably dont have the numbers you have at underage and are a dual Intermediate club. We were Senior in Football less than 10 years ago. Our neighbours in Clongeen have 1 National School with only 46 boys in it in total from Junior Infants up to 6th class and are dual Intermediate also. They even won our Senior Football Championship less than 20 years ago. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 20656 - 28/08/2026 09:00:40 2691636 Link
Replying To yew_tree: "So we are t a real GAA club if we don't play hurling? It's the compulsory part I disagree with. If big clubs can accommodate Hurling and promote it then great. My own club has one pitch which is shared between the ladies club and men's club. There is training and/or games on it nearly every single evening of the week during summer. Where on earth would we be able to accommodate Hurling? The knowledge is not there to coach it. We struggle to field teams as it is so population is an issue. Also of hurling is made compulsory what's the punishment for not playing/promoting it? A comment suggesting a football club or county is not a real GAA club based on this is areogance and I don't agree with it." How about fielding amalgamated hurling teams from u6 upwards with neighbouring clubs? Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 20656 - 28/08/2026 09:02:03 2691637 Link
How about promoting gaelic games in Belfast, Derry City, Galway City, Sligo town , Athlone Town.... Seanfan (Roscommon) - Posts: 915 - 28/08/2026 11:25:21 2691675 Link
Replying To Seanfan: "How about promoting gaelic games in Belfast, Derry City, Galway City, Sligo town , Athlone Town...." Should be done of course. Some good work going on in Belfast it has to be said. Southern Gaels growing in numbers around Athlone. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 20656 - 28/08/2026 16:15:58 2691723 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Should be done of course. Some good work going on in Belfast it has to be said. Southern Gaels growing in numbers around Athlone." Drove past Abbey Park in Boyle round 4 30 this evening. There was a HURLING match going on!!! Seanfan (Roscommon) - Posts: 915 - 28/08/2026 21:08:22 2691753 Link
Replying To Seanfan: "Drove past Abbey Park in Boyle round 4 30 this evening. There was a HURLING match going on!!!" Roscommon is a great GAA county. Of course there are hurling and football games going on there every day. Would be great to see hurling get a foothold up around Boyle ok. Their best footballers are getting on a bit, maybe its time for them to become a force in hurling ;-) Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 20656 - 29/08/2026 09:38:25 2691779 Link
Replying To Seanfan: "How about promoting gaelic games in Belfast, Derry City, Galway City, Sligo town , Athlone Town...." There's no major issue with GAA in Galway City. Liam Mellows, Castlegar and Moycullen all Senior, however Salthill/Knocknacarra are Premier Junior Hurling wise. Salthill/Knocknacarra, St James's, Moycullen all Senior with St Michael's Intermediate. Oughterard, Killanin Senior with Oranmore Intermediate for surrounding areas and Oranmore Senior in Hurling. ColmFlaherty (Galway) - Posts: 222 - 29/08/2026 09:55:48 2691782 Link
In football we have S/K ,James and Michaels,and in hurling weve mellows and castlegar, playing at a decent level. Moycullen,killanin, oranmore etc are well outside the city. Seniorleague (Galway) - Posts: 325 - 29/08/2026 17:54:51 2691851 Link
Replying To yew_tree: "So we are t a real GAA club if we don't play hurling? It's the compulsory part I disagree with. If big clubs can accommodate Hurling and promote it then great. My own club has one pitch which is shared between the ladies club and men's club. There is training and/or games on it nearly every single evening of the week during summer. Where on earth would we be able to accommodate Hurling? The knowledge is not there to coach it. We struggle to field teams as it is so population is an issue. Also of hurling is made compulsory what's the punishment for not playing/promoting it? A comment suggesting a football club or county is not a real GAA club based on this is areogance and I don't agree with it." It was a question rather than a statement. For what it's worth, a question based on how the stated core principle of the GAA is to promote gaelic games (plural). Taking that at face value, one could argue that any club who just promotes one game isn't actually holding true to the Association. It's always the case that where there's a will, there's a way, and you could even run with Viking's suggestion of an amalgamated hurling team between a number of neighbouring football clubs. But I've long ago accepted that when it comes to hurling, there's unfortunately just no will in far too many parts of the country. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 4006 - 29/08/2026 17:55:19 2691852 Link
Submissions lodged against Southern Gaels new home plan \| Westmeath Independent https://share.google/KBhFhx5kA64s5QSmB This is worrying for hurling. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 20656 - 29/08/2026 23:05:50 2691888 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Submissions lodged against Southern Gaels new home plan \| Westmeath Independent https://share.google/KBhFhx5kA64s5QSmB This is worrying for hurling." Have had a read of that, and in fairness, I wouldn't say it's an anti-hurling thing. I'm sure those same objections would have been lodged if it was an application from a purely gaelic football club, or any other sort of sports club. Some of the objections are spurious, particularly the one about fears of "light spillage" from floodlights. This one is often used when clubs want to install lights. I know it was used against two clubs near me in recent years, but both those objections were unsuccessful. Also the one about the junction with what they say is a 100km/h speed limit national road. Google Maps tells me the road in question is the N62, and since that's a N-road with a number larger than 50, the default speed limit is instead 80km/h. Possible of course that Westmeath County Council put it back up to 100km/h after the default limits were reduced nationally, but even if they did, they could use the same powers to very easily bring it back down to 80 or even 60 if they wanted to give the plan the go-ahead. Similar to how the road past the Centre of Excellence here in Wexford used to be 100km/h, but as the new entrance way from that road was being built, the County Council reduced the limit there to 80km/h. The objectors would seem to have a point however about just 48 parking spaces there. My club can fit more than 150 into our own grounds, and there are times when even that's not enough. But overall, I'd say that while this thing is surely worrying for one particular hurling club, it's not worrying for hurling overall. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 4006 - 30/08/2026 13:14:23 2691939 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: "Have had a read of that, and in fairness, I wouldn't say it's an anti-hurling thing. I'm sure those same objections would have been lodged if it was an application from a purely gaelic football club, or any other sort of sports club. Some of the objections are spurious, particularly the one about fears of "light spillage" from floodlights. This one is often used when clubs want to install lights. I know it was used against two clubs near me in recent years, but both those objections were unsuccessful. Also the one about the junction with what they say is a 100km/h speed limit national road. Google Maps tells me the road in question is the N62, and since that's a N-road with a number larger than 50, the default speed limit is instead 80km/h. Possible of course that Westmeath County Council put it back up to 100km/h after the default limits were reduced nationally, but even if they did, they could use the same powers to very easily bring it back down to 80 or even 60 if they wanted to give the plan the go-ahead. Similar to how the road past the Centre of Excellence here in Wexford used to be 100km/h, but as the new entrance way from that road was being built, the County Council reduced the limit there to 80km/h. The objectors would seem to have a point however about just 48 parking spaces there. My club can fit more than 150 into our own grounds, and there are times when even that's not enough. But overall, I'd say that while this thing is surely worrying for one particular hurling club, it's not worrying for hurling overall." Sorry I shouldve been more expansive. I know the objections arent based on the club being a hurling club. But its worrying that a club that's doing well spreading the hurling gospel in what's predominantly a soccer area can't get their own grounds. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 20656 - 30/08/2026 15:07:11 2691948 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Sorry I shouldve been more expansive. I know the objections arent based on the club being a hurling club. But its worrying that a club that's doing well spreading the hurling gospel in what's predominantly a soccer area can't get their own grounds." Had a look at their planning application on the Westmeath County Council site over lunchtime and there are things I'd worry about for them all right, but it's more to do with their own operations rather than their planning application. Their cover letter gives membership numbers at all levels from U8 up to adult in both hurling and camogie, but they say average attendance at training is only 60%. Or for an adult match - they say the average number of spectators is just five. They use this to try justify how only 48 parking spaces would be "enough", as they reckon just 46 would be needed between both teams (36 cars), coaches (four cars), referee (one car), and those five spectators (five cars). Things like that should surely be worrying for the club, if it really is the case that 40% of members don't turn up for training, or if there's so little interest in hurling in the area that just five people who aren't directly involved in it bother to turn up to watch a match. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 4006 - 31/08/2026 14:47:40 2692147 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: "Had a look at their planning application on the Westmeath County Council site over lunchtime and there are things I'd worry about for them all right, but it's more to do with their own operations rather than their planning application. Their cover letter gives membership numbers at all levels from U8 up to adult in both hurling and camogie, but they say average attendance at training is only 60%. Or for an adult match - they say the average number of spectators is just five. They use this to try justify how only 48 parking spaces would be "enough", as they reckon just 46 would be needed between both teams (36 cars), coaches (four cars), referee (one car), and those five spectators (five cars). Things like that should surely be worrying for the club, if it really is the case that 40% of members don't turn up for training, or if there's so little interest in hurling in the area that just five people who aren't directly involved in it bother to turn up to watch a match." We wouldn't have many more than 5 not involved watching most of our underage or League adult matches either! Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 20656 - 31/08/2026 16:26:22 2692171 Link
Replying To Viking66: "We wouldn't have many more than 5 not involved watching most of our underage or League adult matches either!" Maybe that's worrying for you as well then! :) But in fairness - surely for any match for the first team, they should be expecting a few committee members, a few players from the second team who aren't actually togging off for the first team match, a few parents/partners/brothers/sisters of the ones actually playing (especially the younger ones), and a few of the typical stalwart supporters you'd normally find in any club. And then add in a few coming to support the other team as well. Still only five??? Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 4006 - 31/08/2026 19:57:04 2692210 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: "Maybe that's worrying for you as well then! :) But in fairness - surely for any match for the first team, they should be expecting a few committee members, a few players from the second team who aren't actually togging off for the first team match, a few parents/partners/brothers/sisters of the ones actually playing (especially the younger ones), and a few of the typical stalwart supporters you'd normally find in any club. And then add in a few coming to support the other team as well. Still only five???" At alot of our adult League games there'd be a few parents, some of whom also happen to be on the Executive. We'd often not have many subs anyway. Come Championship there would be lads just going to support the club ok, but we'd be playing in neutral venues. Some of the players carpool, or go with their partners. There'd often be only 5 who wouldn't be related to the players or part of the management!!!!! Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 20656 - 31/08/2026 21:34:53 2692223 Link

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