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Replying To Furlong1949: "Thanks for the comment Joeshow.
t's seems at the moment it's eitheir All Ireland winning manager with huge levels of success and experience at top level of gaa and every level of gaa versus manager who won a couple county titles in a few poor club championships and div 4 manager who couldn't get div 4 team out of division 4. If Fitzmaurice doesn't want the job McDermott is being lined up and it look like that at the moment. That could change but thats all the noises coming out at the moment. An All Ireland winning manager one of the top inter county managers of his generation or div 4 inter county manager. Who is the better manager?. That's how must teams look at the situation. If you asked every county in leinster or Munster or Connacht or Ulster who do you want aa Eamon Fitzmaurice or Michael McDermont, I think there would be one winner by a landslide. Its not even a debate. It factual. Eamon Fitzmaurice is at different level div 1 All Ireland winning level to a div 4 level of the other choice. McDermott has all the hallmarks of Banty marked 2 but worse. He repeats what happens at Clare all hell will break loose in Meath. It will be 2 years of turmoil conflict div 3 maybe div 4 football Tailtean Cup forget about leinster finals or q finals. And best generation of young Meath football in 20 years will be coming into shitshow of gigantic proportions.
Regards paying Fitzmaurice will we not also have to pay McDermott also. All outside manager are expensive. Yes there is issue with travel, but Micko and Paudi both overcame that and were huge incredible success stories with kildare laois and Westmeath. Regards Kerry managers being suceesful. Yes Michael Quirke wasn't but there is key difference. Michael Quirke is not All Ireland kerry winning manager. Mick Dwyer was All Ireland winning Kerry manager. Michael Quirke was not All Ireland winning keery manager. Paudi O Se was All Ireland Kerry winning manager. And so is Eamon Fitzmaurice an All Ireland winning Kerry manager.
Regards Fitzmaurice experience he has been managing successfully for 20 years. He won Hogans Cup with his school, and bucket load of titles at every level in kerry football and Munster and All Ireland level . He managed kerry U21 and than kerry seniors. And was selector under Jack O Connor with kerry senior. He is Former All Ireland winning schools and senior kerry manager, former kerry U21 manager and former All Ireland winning kerry senior selector. Here is CV beneath. Its very long.
Eamon Fitzmaurice CV Managed kerry to 1 All Ireland senior title in 2014 Managed kerry to 6 Munster senior titles in 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 Managed kerry to 1 National league div 1 title in 2017 Managed kerry U21 to Munster U21 title Hw was selector with Kerry seniors in 2009 under Jack O Connor when Kerry won All Ireland senior title and National league div 1 title. As kerry selector won Munster senior title with kerry in 2010 Managed his school to 2 Hogan Cup All-Ireland school titles in 2014 2015 Managed his school to 6 Munster A School Titles Managed his school to All Ireland U16 title ( Paul McGirr Cup) Managed kerry seniors to 2 McGrath Cup in 2013 2017 Managed his club to 2 East Kerry junior championship 2012 2018 Managed his club to 2 Junior Club Championships 2008 2009 Managed his school to 3 U15 kerry County titles in 2009 2010 2011 Managed his school to U15 Munster School Titles 2011 2012 Managed his school to kerry school U17 title in 2011 Managed his School to 2 U17 Munster School A titles in 2012 2018
In total Eamon Fitzmaurice has managed at different levels successfully many many different gaa teams in last 15 years. As manager in 15 years he has won 36 titles/ competitions in 15 years as GAA manager at kerry junior club championship, Munster and kerry Schools U15 and Munster and kerry School U17 and kerry Munster and All Ireland schools U18 and Inter County U21 and Inter County senior as selector and manager. As a player he won 3 All Ireland senior, 6 Munster senior titles, 2 national league titles, Minor All Ireland titles, U21 All Ireland titles, Junior club All Ireland title, Cork and kerry County titles, Munster senior club title. And 2 kerry hurling club championships. As a player selector and manager since he made his debut for kerry minors in 1994, 28 years ago Eamon Fitzmaurice has won 65 titles as player and manager in 28 years since he made his debut. Eamon Fitzmaurice is a serial winner. He is a born winner. Eamon Fitzmaurice is successful everywhere he goes. He is a winning machine. Title after title at every level gaa from U15 to senior and everything in between. He is one of the most outstanding managers of his generation
Next on the list it seems Michael mcdermont us second option if rumours are right. Won few county titles in poor competitions, out of 7 last job in last 15 year he struggled in 3. He didn't do well at Parnells, didn't do well at Garycastle and when he managed Clare he failed to get them out of div 4 at three attempts. Lost his first championship game to Waterford. In year 2 Clare were 6th in div 4, as Clare were worsening other his tenure. And was hammered humiliated by kerry Cork by 25 18 and 15 pts. He won 1 championship game ever, 1 win in 7 championship games.
Third option that being floated is Bernard Flynn with Robbie Brennan assistant. Robbie Brennan could be a good manager but still unproven at top level. Bernard Flynn won 1 title as manager Westhmeath senior club championship. Remeber Fitzmaurice won 36 titles as manager.
Other options would be Davy Burke Best young manager in the country, but county board seem to ignoring him, while other leinster counties have tried to make him manager in last 2 years. He turned down 2 inter County Job in last 2 years teams outside div 1 div 2. An ambitious manager like him would surely be interested in Meath job.
This would be the plan. I see Eamon Fitzmaurice to come in for 3 years take us up to div 1, leaves us in div 1 and Cathal O Bric takes over after success with U20s as Meath senior manager in 2026 or 2027. That would ideal situation. Of course if Fitzmaurice is hugely successful like he has being in every managerial job and wants to stay we would gladly keep him. With Malachy O Rourke not interested Eamon Fitzmaurice is the new outstanding choice as Meath manager." You make a lot of good points and Eamonn Fitz has a great CV, however its all about Kerry. He had a major advamtage when he got Kerry Senior job, knew the system inside out, the clibs, players and CB. He also had a group of very talented players from the off. Did he get the best out of them, one all Ireland, had little or no opposition in Munster, so success there was almost a given. Would be coming to us with little or no knowledge of Meath football. Before season starts, he need to put his panel together, the players he wants and not just depend on panel from last few years. You say a three year term which sounds about right, but travel alone thats some commitment for a family man in full time work. Should he have a poor start then that journey becomrs longer each time. Different from Paudi, self employed or Micko semi retired. I just feel we need to take everything into account before making decision. Job will require massive commitment and the ability/willingness to give up most of their spare time. He comes across as a very shrewd and honest man and no doubt his dicision will be focused on what is right for Eamonn Fitz.
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Replying To seadog54: "You make a lot of good points and Eamonn Fitz has a great CV, however its all about Kerry. He had a major advamtage when he got Kerry Senior job, knew the system inside out, the clibs, players and CB. He also had a group of very talented players from the off. Did he get the best out of them, one all Ireland, had little or no opposition in Munster, so success there was almost a given. Would be coming to us with little or no knowledge of Meath football. Before season starts, he need to put his panel together, the players he wants and not just depend on panel from last few years. You say a three year term which sounds about right, but travel alone thats some commitment for a family man in full time work. Should he have a poor start then that journey becomrs longer each time. Different from Paudi, self employed or Micko semi retired. I just feel we need to take everything into account before making decision. Job will require massive commitment and the ability/willingness to give up most of their spare time. He comes across as a very shrewd and honest man and no doubt his dicision will be focused on what is right for Eamonn Fitz." I thinks that's my view on it, I don't think he'd would take it on half assed so he might say no it's just too much. If he does take it on it would be that he feels he can do himself justice and not tarnish his rep. He is one of the first names on most lists for intercounty jobs so can't see him giving that up with a failed stint in Meath.
I do wonder if Colm might get involved with his rte colleague as that would be a good start to get some local insight.
Thejoeshow (Meath) - Posts: 687 - 02/07/2022 17:18:42
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Replying To Analyst: "Sorry all but did i miss something, where has Paul Curran had success that the likes of Mc Dermott hasn't ??, majority of posts pointing out potential candidates lack of experience but where is Currans to justify being considered" Analyst, Paul Curran has won a Dublin championship with Ballymun, he might've won another one as well and reached multiple finals. He's also helped bring Thomas Davis back to relevance in Dublin football at a time when Shamrock Rovers moved to Tallaght.
brian (Meath) - Posts: 2000 - 03/07/2022 12:08:43
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Replying To southmeathgael: "Alot of Dublin names being thrown about on here. No way do I want a dub involved with any meath senior football team in any capacity." And people wonder why Dublin people don't try to get involved in local area's. There's a lot of the people who've been involved and immersed in a winning culture in Dublin for the last dozen years and living in the county, and you don't want them involved because of where they're from??? You don't want to bring in people who could help turn around the culture and attitude of our senior team? You don't want to surround your county team with people who know what a winner looks like, the mentality that is needed to get to those levels and the standards that we need to get too.
If they're not interested and don't want to go forward fair enough but to rule them out based on where they're from is crazy.
brian (Meath) - Posts: 2000 - 03/07/2022 12:23:13
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Replying To Thejoeshow: "Malachy wasn't interested in the travel that's fairly well known (I think)? And I have a feeling he may be managing another county in green and gold up that way.
No sponsors not linked at all to Eamonn but we should have a new main sponser in autumn is all I'll be saying for now!" Cheers Joe, fair play to you, as i say you're a great poster who can have a solid discussion. Your points both ring true alright, you'd have to imagine Malachy is favourite for the Donegal job and the sponsor talk makes sense.
brian (Meath) - Posts: 2000 - 03/07/2022 12:42:16
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Replying To brian: "And people wonder why Dublin people don't try to get involved in local area's. There's a lot of the people who've been involved and immersed in a winning culture in Dublin for the last dozen years and living in the county, and you don't want them involved because of where they're from??? You don't want to bring in people who could help turn around the culture and attitude of our senior team? You don't want to surround your county team with people who know what a winner looks like, the mentality that is needed to get to those levels and the standards that we need to get too.
If they're not interested and don't want to go forward fair enough but to rule them out based on where they're from is crazy." Think with the news that we heard from Spain yesterday. Maybe we all could hold our thoughts a bit more. Including myself. Not in relation to this post in anyway just in general. So think we should bury the hatchet on here.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 03/07/2022 12:47:01
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Replying To southmeathgael: "Alot of Dublin names being thrown about on here. No way do I want a dub involved with any meath senior football team in any capacity." Exactly, you do wonder with people on this
Utdroyal (Meath) - Posts: 67 - 03/07/2022 13:03:07
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Replying To brian: "And people wonder why Dublin people don't try to get involved in local area's. There's a lot of the people who've been involved and immersed in a winning culture in Dublin for the last dozen years and living in the county, and you don't want them involved because of where they're from??? You don't want to bring in people who could help turn around the culture and attitude of our senior team? You don't want to surround your county team with people who know what a winner looks like, the mentality that is needed to get to those levels and the standards that we need to get too.
If they're not interested and don't want to go forward fair enough but to rule them out based on where they're from is crazy." We dont need dubs to show us how to play football Brian
Royal.Legend (Meath) - Posts: 745 - 03/07/2022 16:49:55
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Eamonn fitzmorris has won something like 30 titles I read today. Is that true ? If so surely we must do everything we can to have him for a few years. The boost he would give the county would be unreal. Will it be expensive? Yes. But we have the money since we made a balls of the refit of pt.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 03/07/2022 17:29:08
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Replying To royaldunne: "Eamonn fitzmorris has won something like 30 titles I read today. Is that true ? If so surely we must do everything we can to have him for a few years. The boost he would give the county would be unreal. Will it be expensive? Yes. But we have the money since we made a balls of the refit of pt." Absolute no brainer alright if someone of his knowledge and ability and track record show an interest or willingness to take on the job, then go and make the effort to get him.
Money has to be a secondary concern in the matter. We are one of the wealthier counties in the country. It's not going to be 100's of thousands. We have sponsor's, there's no move on ot so that money is there. There are other ways of funding it. But they should certainly be pushing to make it happen of it's a possibility.
Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6348 - 03/07/2022 18:01:24
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Replying To Jinxie: "Absolute no brainer alright if someone of his knowledge and ability and track record show an interest or willingness to take on the job, then go and make the effort to get him.
Money has to be a secondary concern in the matter. We are one of the wealthier counties in the country. It's not going to be 100's of thousands. We have sponsor's, there's no move on ot so that money is there. There are other ways of funding it. But they should certainly be pushing to make it happen of it's a possibility." That's my thoughts on it too
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 03/07/2022 18:20:18
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Replying To royaldunne: "That's my thoughts on it too" I don't think there's any other way of looking at it, given how high profile he is and the amount of titles I'll believe it when I see it but it he should be left with no illusion that (within reason) he will be given what he needs to go and do the best he can with the team.
Thejoeshow (Meath) - Posts: 687 - 03/07/2022 19:34:28
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Any word on when the alleged meeting is due to take place or has it happened already?
I'm assuming some of the interviews have already taken place??
Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6348 - 03/07/2022 19:51:10
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Replying To Jinxie: "Any word on when the alleged meeting is due to take place or has it happened already?
I'm assuming some of the interviews have already taken place??" From what I understand is that the whole process should be wrapped up within the next 1-2 weeks with a preferred candidate proposed to the county board.
Thejoeshow (Meath) - Posts: 687 - 03/07/2022 20:07:52
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Replying To Thejoeshow: "From what I understand is that the whole process should be wrapped up within the next 1-2 weeks with a preferred candidate proposed to the county board." That would make me think ya know a tad more than you've declared there joe....;-)
I'll not ask you to divulge anything that'd get you in trouble, but let's say you were a better man, where are you putting your money.....
Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6348 - 03/07/2022 20:29:57
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Replying To Jinxie: "Any word on when the alleged meeting is due to take place or has it happened already?
I'm assuming some of the interviews have already taken place??" Think this week is final interviews . As far as I am aware all candidates have been asked to come back with a set up.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 03/07/2022 20:39:22
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Replying To Jinxie: "That would make me think ya know a tad more than you've declared there joe....;-)
I'll not ask you to divulge anything that'd get you in trouble, but let's say you were a better man, where are you putting your money....." Genuinely nothing directly involved jinxie or I wouldn't be on here!! If I was a betting man I would think it will be Bernie Flynn in all honesty. Interested to hear RDs view on it but I think he's the most likely.
Thejoeshow (Meath) - Posts: 687 - 03/07/2022 21:03:49
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Replying To Thejoeshow: "Genuinely nothing directly involved jinxie or I wouldn't be on here!! If I was a betting man I would think it will be Bernie Flynn in all honesty. Interested to hear RDs view on it but I think he's the most likely." No hassle joe.
Just trying to decifer the viable from the mythical rumors is all....
If E.F was williy to meet and be interviewed, then there's room to sell it to him and I'd love to see that happening.
If not, then to he honest it really comes down to who everyone has as their backroom that'll be the difference really.
Has any of them got a top class coach or tactician on their card... That'll be the key to separating them really.
Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6348 - 03/07/2022 21:29:50
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Replying To Jinxie: "No hassle joe.
Just trying to decifer the viable from the mythical rumors is all....
If E.F was williy to meet and be interviewed, then there's room to sell it to him and I'd love to see that happening.
If not, then to he honest it really comes down to who everyone has as their backroom that'll be the difference really.
Has any of them got a top class coach or tactician on their card... That'll be the key to separating them really." EF was not disinterested Originally and the details of the project led to genuine interest and going forward to meet with them and set out his plan this week. That's not mythical. There has been tunnel vision on EF basically and he was clear #1 from the moment he was happy to have a chat. I am 100% on that.
We all know the issues Colm had getting the level of control over football side when trying to go for it, could that happen again? Possibly.
Thejoeshow (Meath) - Posts: 687 - 03/07/2022 21:53:01
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Flynn, Geraghty, Giles and Biggy I heard were going in.
Don't know where Biggy has come out of but that's what I heard
thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 1151 - 04/07/2022 07:25:04
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